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September 2, 2008

Cuz and Nik were up this weekend and we had a lovely time, very nice and relaxing. But a conversation we had keeps playing in my head. I was giving Nik some gentle ribbing about the fact that she had become a fan of Sarah Palin on Facebook. What sticks with me is my general apathy about the whole electoral process this time around (or does this happen every four years and I forget?). I mean, we are going to have either a female VP or an African-American prez. We are. That should be a beautiful thing.

Instead I’m just sad and appalled by the whole calculated misery of it all. The budget balloons, men and women die in Iraq and Afghanistan, taxpayers bail out fiscally irresponsible lending institutions, and liberals get slagged for too much something, conservatives for too much something else.



14 Comments leave one →
  1. September 2, 2008 10:28 am

    Call my glasses rose-colored, but I’m excited about two candidates that have more in common with each other than their own political parties. They seem like statesmen, leaders, public speakers. They can both pronounce “nuclear”. I’m excited about McCain’s views on the Geneva Convetions, and Obama’s “family is off limits” statements today. These guys aren’t just proxies for their parties; they are individuals and pragmatists.

  2. Shane permalink
    September 2, 2008 11:00 am

    Sorry, Crash, but McCain lost me when he did everything but have his mother blow Satan in his mad rush to suck up to the religious right lunatics. He and Hillary are cut from the same cloth in their ambition do whatever it takes to get elected. The difference is, Hillary knows that she’s young enough that is somehow Obama fucks this up and loses or even has two terms that she’s viable in 2012 or 2016. She still won’t be as old as McCain is now.

    So Obama and Biden (We shouldn’t vote for Obama because he lacks experience and we shouldn’t vote for Biden because he has it. /rolls eyes) or Grandpa and the Soccer Mom…

    Gonna be an easy choice for me.

  3. Cuz permalink
    September 3, 2008 8:55 am

    But it sure was a nice weekend. Thanks B.

  4. September 3, 2008 9:20 am

    I’m not saying McCain is perfect. Or Obama. I’m saying they both depart sharply from party doctrine. I agree that McCain’s pandering to his party has been annoying, but I don’t think he’s a Reagan Republican by any stretch. The fact that he has had to reach out to the party base is proof that he is not a Republican clone. And if he gets elected, I won’t be as disappointed as I was the last two elections. McCain seems to be able to string words together to form sentences, unlike our current President. Maybe that’s like saying one turd is better than another, but at a bare minimum I’d like to have a leader who can lead.

    Glad you like you’re candidates and are planning to vote in November.

  5. Shane permalink
    September 5, 2008 9:05 am

    Oh, I’m definitely voting. 🙂

    McCain has voted 90% w/ Bush. He’s not this “maverick” that’s he’s made himself out to be. What he is, however, is not afraid to speak his mind and cross swords with his party at times. So, people misunderstand the fact that he is not a droid and is willing to speak his mind and take that to mean he’s some kind of non-partisan maverick. WRONG.

    Obama, if anything, is moving the Dems back to what they used to be, to the promise they’ve held out in the past. He represents progress. McCain represents a continuing of the regressive agenda. So, if you like the move back to the stone age that Bush has started, by all means vote Grandpa and the Soccer Mom (BTW, this was the name of a failed spinoff of “BJ and the Bear”). If you want to be part of the 21st Century, vote Obama.

  6. Shane permalink
    September 5, 2008 9:10 am

    PS Anyone seen the “Jesus was a Community Organizer, Pontius Pilate was a governor” buttons? SCHWEET

  7. September 9, 2008 5:17 pm

    Bush voted? I didn’t realize he was a member of Congress…?

  8. September 12, 2008 9:33 am

    Seriously Cuz, that 90% statistic doesn’t make any sense. Bush doesn’t vote in the Senate, so what do they consider a “vote” in common with McCain?

    Maybe it means White House sponsored legislation. How DARE McCain vote for that education bill, or that highway bill…? And how many other issues came before the Senate that were NOT White House sponsored? Most. So that’s an irrelevant percentage.

    Maybe it means times that McCain voted “no” for something that Bush vetoed. So how many vetos have there been in the last 8 years… 8? And how many bills never made it to Bush’s desk because Congress never passed them? McCain still voted on all of those issues Bush never had a chance to veto. Again, an irrelevant percentage.

    I’m not voting for McCain. But I’m not drinking Democrat Kool-Aid either.

  9. September 12, 2008 9:38 am

    I mean Shane, not Cuz. Ooops.

  10. Shane permalink
    September 12, 2008 9:59 am

    Randy, it is a good question, and it would nice to know precisely what they mean, but you have the essence of it there. In that did Senator X vote for something that Bush later signed? Did he vote against it? I think that’s a valid point of information. Of all, say, 100 bills that passed the presidents desk, what % were they in sync on. I think that’s a fair and relevant question.

    Now, duh, there are a large number that even the opposition supports, hence, why even Obama or Hillary or Lincoln Chafee will agree w/ the President a lot of the time.

    It just shows, however, as you slide up the ladder when you get that high, it does demonstrate a certain lock step.

    The point, and this statistic is far from the only evidence, is that McCain is not some iconoclastic maverick. Does he speak his mind? Yes. Is he unafraid to criticize his own party? Yes. Both are great things. Just don’t let that confuse you to think he’s bi-partisan ubermensch. (which I’m not saying you are, btw, we’re largely arguing from the general viewpoint here)

  11. September 15, 2008 10:38 am

    I do think we are mostly on the same page, but the distinction is important to me because I’m more interested in the job of government than the practice of politics. While it may be a fair and relevant question to try to compare McCain with Bush, I think that kind of comparison is insignificant. And since it is unqualified (what decisions are used to create that percentage comparison?) I think it is a lot of politics and almost no government.

    I don’t think McCain *OR* Obama can be categorized as truly bi-partisan. They definitely lean toward their party’s platforms. What I’m excited about is how much they differ from their own parties, and how they are changing the perspectives of their parties toward The Center, where I like to live. And where I think most Americans live, rather than the ideological extremes.

    I did enjoy a piece of mail my inlaws brought with them that said something along the lines of: “It is clear that if Obama is elected President he will surely take his cues from Jeremiah Wright and Louis Farrakhan.” It’s like people forgot the whole “JFK will take orders from the Pope” propaganda. The sad thing is, some people will believe that and vote based on the belief.

  12. Shane permalink
    September 15, 2008 11:45 am

    Muslims… they’re the new Catholics! 🙂

  13. September 15, 2008 3:46 pm

    Oh man, what a great idea for a T-Shirt. But somone would stone me for sure.

  14. Shane permalink
    September 15, 2008 3:59 pm

    You’d never be able to board a plane w/out a TSA handshake ever again.

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